I’ve had several people ask me about what it takes to become a fly fishing guide. I was only a guide for a couple of years in my grad school days out of a shop in Boulder that was then managed by the great Charlie Craven. But in that short time through my own experiences (and also due to Charlie’s shared knowledge), I gained some great insights into what makes a good guide. Here are a few tips you should consider if you’re thinking of becoming a guide…
1. Get legit. Every state has different regulations on what you need to do to become an official guide. You might need to take a CPR class, water safety course, obtain certain permits for specific watersheds, etc. In some states, you can be a freelance guide and in others, you might need to be affiliated with a fly shop or lodge. Find out what the legal requirements are first and make sure you’ve dotted all the “Is” and crossed all your “Ts” before even trying to get clients.
2. Know your stuff. It sounds obvious, but a lot of people want to get into guiding that aren’t really qualified. No one wants a rookie doctor to perform surgery on them. They want the most experienced surgeon in the hospital. People are paying good money for you to guide them and usually come in with high (i.e. “unrealistic”) expectations. If you shrug your shoulders when a client asks you a basic question like, “what kind of fish is this”, or seem like you don’t know what you’re doing, you’ll not only look like a charlatan, but you’ll definitely lose repeat business (as well as a good tip). Know the water, know the bugs, know the flies, know the fish.
3. Know when to be a teacher and when to be a babysitter. Every client is different. Some will be experienced anglers who just want a chauffeur to the stream and have you let them do their own thing without interrupting. And some will need you to hold their hand all day. Never assume every client needs to be “guided”. Instead, ask some leading questions when you pick them up to gauge their level of expertise, then, form your game plan for the rest of the day based on that. There’s nothing worse than an intrusive guide telling an experienced angler what they already know (except for an experienced guide not telling a knave what they do need to know). It works both ways. Determine the skill level of your client before assuming anything.
4. Don’t work for the tip. Like I said above, there are all different types of clients. And it’s not limited to skill level. There’s also the personality factor. I once had a client who showed up on a catch-and-release stream with a cooler. I asked him what the cooler was for since I already had his lunch and beverages in a cooler. He said that it was for all the fish he was going to take home. After explaining to him that this was a C & R stream and he couldn’t keep any fish, he was pretty pissed off with me the rest of the day. He had never fly fished before and wouldn’t listen to any of my instructions after that so you can imagine he didn’t catch anything despite copious numbers of easy fish just a couple of yards from his feet. When we returned to the parking lot, he told me, “Sorry, I’m not going to give you no tip because we didn’t catch no fish”. Another time, I had a woman from NYC that had also never fly fished before. She was pretty enthusiastic and eager to learn–following my every instruction. She took in all the scenery and was clearly just as enamored with the overall experience as she was with the prospect of possibly catching a fish in the mountains of Colorado. She didn’t catch anything. But, after the trip, she treated me to dinner and gave me a $40 tip. At that time, the going rate for a good tip was maybe $50-$60 so it wasn’t that bad. I was fine with that and never gave it a second thought. About a week later, I got a letter from her with a note apologizing for not giving a better tip and a check for another $60. You’re going to get angels, assholes, and everything in between. But the best approach is to treat everyone equally.
5. Be a concierge. You need to be more than just a “fly fishing guide”. You need to be a butler, personal assistant, nurse, secretary, and sometimes, a gopher. If your client hooks themselves, make sure you have a first-aid kit on hand. Make sure you have water, food, and other bio-necessities like sunscreen and tissue to offer them if they need it. In short, either prepare for, or be willing to secure anything the client needs to make them comfortable. Remember, this experience is out of their realm–that’s why they hired YOU. It’s your job to change it from an alien experience to one they’ll talk about at cocktail parties the rest of their lives.
6. Be patient. Go in with the expectation that you’re going to be doing a lot of untangling of lines, re-tying of lost flies, and arm grabbing to prevent clients from drowning when they step into that hole. That’s just what it is. If you don’t have the patience to do that about 10 times a day, you can’t be a guide.
7. Don’t be a superhero. Standing on your feet all day, wading through cold water, and catering to your client’s every need can take a lot out of you. You’re only human. When the opportunity presents itself, take a break to sit, eat, or just clear your mind. The best time is when your client gets “in the zone” and is so focused that they don’t even consider it a “guided” trip anymore. To provide the best customer service, you need to be at your best and you can’t do that if you’re tired and groggy. Take advantage of those small windows to keep yourself on your toes, but be prepared to jump right in if the client asks (screams) for help.
8. Use barbless flies. I’ve been hooked by bad backcasts more times than I care to remember. A barbless hook comes out pretty easily on the stream. A barbed one might require a trip to the local hospital. For your own safety (and your client) de-barb all of your hooks!
There are many more tips I could share about being a guide, but those are the main ones I think are the most important. Feel free to share yours in the comments section below.
I guess I’ve never based my tip on the number of fish caught in a day. I have been with different guides because I wanted to learn what worked in that area. Maybe I’ve been lucky but they were great guys and taught me a lot. I would consider them friends and each time I have asked if it would be OK to fish the areas they showed me. I wouldn’t have gone without their consent. They work hard and always deserve a tip whether fish are caught or not as long as they put in the effort.
Thanks Jason useful information.
Robert, thank you. It was your Facebook post that inspired me to write this.
I so appreciate kind guides and I tip and pay well always. I did this for a week all day every day for group and it is challenging to listen to people complain about not catching the “lunker” and then not offer a tip or even a thank-you…it does not represent fishing well or the spirit of being out in nature.
I must admit, I’ve never wanted to be a guide. I’m too selfish! I like to fish, to explore, and not be tied down. I’ll let others much more capable to be the guides!
Hey Tom, ironically, that’s one of the reasons I quit. When people found out I was a guide, they’d always say, “oh, must be great to get paid to go fishing all the time.” And I was like, “um, yeah. I haven’t been fishing in 2 months”.
Well done Jason!
And should you decide to do it, on your 4th or 5th day in a row in 90+ heat and the fish aren’t biting no matter what you tie on with clients who are frustrated even though they won’t listen to anything you try to tell them, you’ll long for that cushy, air-conditioned office job. Some days are really fun and rewarding but others are pure hell. A different kind of hell than you might be used to but hell nonetheless.
Having fly fished since I was a teenager, I figured I know a fair amount… However, every time I hire a guide I never fail to learn a whole lot more… They work hard and are an excellent resource when exploring new environments….. By the way, when I was a teen Vietnam was part of the daily news and the TV was black and white…
I would love to try guiding sometime. I have often thought of trying it. Not sure if I could make a living at it here in North Texas. Good info, thanks.
I will be a rookie guide on the UT Green this summer. I just think about the couple of times I was privileged enough to fish with a paid guide. The anticipation and excitement in the days leading up to the trip were off the charts! I hope my clients will feel the same way when they are in my boat with me and i will be thinking about my feelings leading up to and thru those couple of trips i had.
To all you considering becoming a guide repeat after me: “MEND MEND MEND”. There you have most of the days’ conversation with your sports. Other helpful phrases: “Don’t cast behind the boat”, “Strike!”, “don’t worry I have more flies” or “hold on, I’ll untangle that for you”.
I would like to make a few additional remarks.
Always dress neatly and that does not mean looking like an Orvis model-just be neat and clean.
Always drive a clean vehicle without a lot of clutter. There is nothing more offputting than a car littered with beer cans, etc.. And that goes for the boat as well.
Always keep your equipment in good repair. A friend lost the fish of a lifetime because of a hole in a net that the guide had neglected for a week.
Those are excellent tips Bryan! It’s all about the overall experience. The little details definitely matter.
Although I am not a fishing I have been an instructor for years in the outdoor industry. I would add is make sure you get the client to tell you any medical conditions and can they swim! I remember a rafting trip where we got caught in a surf hole when one of my clients told me he couldn’t swim despite me asking on three occasions. We were in real trouble and he and two of his friend simply froze, we all got out of it ok but I would never have gone into that surf hole had I known half of my crew was non swimmers. That little lie could have cost 6 people very very dearly. I have a few other stories like this one but the point is make sure you get all the facts from the client!!!
Also never talk about religion or politcs , even if you agree with your clients ideas .
Yes, also great tips Pedro. People want to fish. Not a political debate